Anyway. It's more reflex than anything, the way Kaveh averts his gaze and tenses--he's grown too used to being scolded for his self-sacrificial tendencies, and for all that he's been through over the past 8 weeks, he is, in essence, back to where he started: Deflection and lies to make it seem like he's more okay than he actually is. But then he remembers who he's talking to, and, ironically, seems to relax a little bit.
There are people here that he loves dearly, but the fussing can be so oppressive sometimes. It's a bit of a relief, to be honest.]
Yes, I would have. That was the plan if they ended up in trouble at trial. [And also the only reason he never volunteered, aside from not wanting to put Nahida and Shu at risk of team wiping. He figured he could do more good taking the fall for them in an execution, if he had to.]
[STOP LOOK I WOULD HAVE BEEN KNIFEBLOCKED BY 5000 PEOPLE
Rang watches Kaveh with interest, because no matter how many people are out there trying to blorbofy him, there is still a part of him that's drawn to pain, conflict, and the difficulties that humans face. it's like kaveh expects -- not a single part of him wants to comfort or scold kaveh for this line of thinking, instead, he's a little impressed?]
...That would have been interesting to see. But I wonder if the others would have voted for you.
[He'd seen how they reacted when kyoko had been the culprit. would they have turned their face away from kaveh just to make themselves feel better? ignored what he was trying to do while criticizing his decision?]
If they were willing to vote for Nahida, then they would've been willing to vote for me. [It feels so horribly selfish to be upset about that, because Nahida was guilty, and he knew it. But the way things played out still hurts, even though he knows it did, ultimately, keep Ylfa and Haru safe a little longer.] They might've hesitated for Shu's sake, but ultimately, they can't look away from seeking justice--nor should they. The only outlier was... Kyoko.
[Rang does not get to know what Kaveh's emotions are regarding that whole situation :smiling_face_with_tear:
Kaveh genuinely seems to believe this, though. It's simply the way his mind works--if they'd feel bad voting for him when evidence made him look guilty, it's less to do with him and more to do with the fact that they're kind people who don't like hurting each other. Kyoko was the option that would hurt the least amount of people--it was pure "luck" that she turned out to be guilty. If Wenzhou had still been alive, Kaveh doesn't think anyone would've felt any worse voting for him over anybody else.]
It's not like he can argue, though. Honestly--he's had to compartmentalize, to cling on to one goal after another in order to keep his head above water. There's more than one reason he'd seriously debated volunteering to be sacrificed, and a selfish desire to escape from the responsibility of bloodshed was one of them.]
I don't know if "awkward" is the word for it. [...] ...But I stand by what I said before you died.
[The vast majority of their group acted for the greater good, or out of desperation--not out of innate violence and maliciousness. It is, perhaps, the one truth that's helped him get through this situation, so far removed from his normal life.]
[is he being ignorant on purpose...... that and maybe he remembers other conversations more clearly, even if they were long ago. the only time he's seen kaveh distraught was after Rin and Buzen died, and before his and Matsui's impending deaths.
death really makes everything awkward. if buzen hadn't died, then rang could have parted on worse terms with kaveh and everyone else.]
[I truly read this as sad wet pipe and I sat here for ages trying to figure out wtf that meant
Anyway--it's annoying, but it's a fair point. Kaveh lectured him about values about a thousand times before he died, so he'll say it again.]
These are good people. [Maybe not every single one of them, but--most of them.] And none of this was ever okay. It's unfair to condemn them for playing by the rules of a game they never asked to join when the alternative was to wait for death.
[It's more complicated than that, of course; personal loss is still so devastating, even all these weeks later. And he has judged victim choices. D could've chosen so many others besides Rin--Libby could've chosen so many others besides Buzen. Hell, if Nahida and Shu had consulted him first, he probably would've told them not to go after Valerie, no matter how good of a fighter she is.]
I don't expect the people who were erased to forget what was done to them. [If Shenhe had decided to never forgive Gerard, he would have told her that was her prerogative.] Those of us who caused harm--that's something we should never forget. But people's hands were forced--that matters, too.
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he perks up at that, speaking of ylfa and haru....]
Would you have let them erase you?
[he's curious......]
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Anyway. It's more reflex than anything, the way Kaveh averts his gaze and tenses--he's grown too used to being scolded for his self-sacrificial tendencies, and for all that he's been through over the past 8 weeks, he is, in essence, back to where he started: Deflection and lies to make it seem like he's more okay than he actually is. But then he remembers who he's talking to, and, ironically, seems to relax a little bit.
There are people here that he loves dearly, but the fussing can be so oppressive sometimes. It's a bit of a relief, to be honest.]
Yes, I would have. That was the plan if they ended up in trouble at trial. [And also the only reason he never volunteered, aside from not wanting to put Nahida and Shu at risk of team wiping. He figured he could do more good taking the fall for them in an execution, if he had to.]
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Rang watches Kaveh with interest, because no matter how many people are out there trying to blorbofy him, there is still a part of him that's drawn to pain, conflict, and the difficulties that humans face. it's like kaveh expects -- not a single part of him wants to comfort or scold kaveh for this line of thinking, instead, he's a little impressed?]
...That would have been interesting to see. But I wonder if the others would have voted for you.
[He'd seen how they reacted when kyoko had been the culprit. would they have turned their face away from kaveh just to make themselves feel better? ignored what he was trying to do while criticizing his decision?]
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If they were willing to vote for Nahida, then they would've been willing to vote for me. [It feels so horribly selfish to be upset about that, because Nahida was guilty, and he knew it. But the way things played out still hurts, even though he knows it did, ultimately, keep Ylfa and Haru safe a little longer.] They might've hesitated for Shu's sake, but ultimately, they can't look away from seeking justice--nor should they. The only outlier was... Kyoko.
[Rang does not get to know what Kaveh's emotions are regarding that whole situation :smiling_face_with_tear:
Kaveh genuinely seems to believe this, though. It's simply the way his mind works--if they'd feel bad voting for him when evidence made him look guilty, it's less to do with him and more to do with the fact that they're kind people who don't like hurting each other. Kyoko was the option that would hurt the least amount of people--it was pure "luck" that she turned out to be guilty. If Wenzhou had still been alive, Kaveh doesn't think anyone would've felt any worse voting for him over anybody else.]
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Did you know that Wolfwood said the same thing? That he went to sleep without any plans to erase anyone that night, and yet still woke up.
[he doesn't think kyoko was lying about not wanting to kill, but her speech really did make it seem as if wolfwood had]
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Really?
[Oh... well. Great!!! That makes things even more complicated!!!!!]
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[rang is happy to help :3c]
I did think Wolfwood attacked her first, since he killed Shen Qingqiu, but... I guess not.
[he shrugs. he doesn't think wolfwood would lie, and their reunion was incredibly awkward and tense as rang watched them from like 10 feet away,]
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BUT HE LOOKS SURPRISED AGAIN AT THIS ABRUPT DOXXING]
He did?
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That's right, I forgot that he got away with it.
[rang as walking spoilers]
Are you really that surprised though?
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[His tone is quiet, resigned. But he looks a little sad anyway.]
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Rang can't even kick back and enjoy this since he's a static image that can walk and talk and flicker around,]
It must be awkward for you, that all your friends are murderers. Or helped with murder.
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It's not like he can argue, though. Honestly--he's had to compartmentalize, to cling on to one goal after another in order to keep his head above water. There's more than one reason he'd seriously debated volunteering to be sacrificed, and a selfish desire to escape from the responsibility of bloodshed was one of them.]
I don't know if "awkward" is the word for it. [...] ...But I stand by what I said before you died.
[The vast majority of their group acted for the greater good, or out of desperation--not out of innate violence and maliciousness. It is, perhaps, the one truth that's helped him get through this situation, so far removed from his normal life.]
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You said a lot of things before I died.
[is he being ignorant on purpose...... that and maybe he remembers other conversations more clearly, even if they were long ago. the only time he's seen kaveh distraught was after Rin and Buzen died, and before his and Matsui's impending deaths.
death really makes everything awkward. if buzen hadn't died, then rang could have parted on worse terms with kaveh and everyone else.]
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Anyway--it's annoying, but it's a fair point. Kaveh lectured him about values about a thousand times before he died, so he'll say it again.]
These are good people. [Maybe not every single one of them, but--most of them.] And none of this was ever okay. It's unfair to condemn them for playing by the rules of a game they never asked to join when the alternative was to wait for death.
[It's more complicated than that, of course; personal loss is still so devastating, even all these weeks later. And he has judged victim choices. D could've chosen so many others besides Rin--Libby could've chosen so many others besides Buzen. Hell, if Nahida and Shu had consulted him first, he probably would've told them not to go after Valerie, no matter how good of a fighter she is.]
I don't expect the people who were erased to forget what was done to them. [If Shenhe had decided to never forgive Gerard, he would have told her that was her prerogative.] Those of us who caused harm--that's something we should never forget. But people's hands were forced--that matters, too.